This song remember me to Weezer.
deathtokoalas
yeah, there's an influence, but the thermals are generally fairly straight forward whereas weezer plays on the angular shit. the average non-musician may be surprised by how complicated weezer actually is. thermals are a couple of chords, a driving drum beat and a good attitude. if you take it back another generation to the general power pop sound of the early 80s and it's hybrid punk-pop offshoots (like the vaselines), you get a big common influence that's probably more important...
Jorge Martín Pérez
Ok, so you are right.
KYLEizaFOX
I normally don't respond to comments that are this old but you're way off. Weezer, complicated? Are you serious? Is there a bit more technicality than the thermals have? Sure. Complicated? No.
You're comparing two bands who power chord their way through 75% of every song they write. That's not a criticism, just a fact. Two bands that also happen to love down strokes. Two bands who take heavy punk influence and add some power pop into the mix. Then you're going to sit there and tell me and others that finding the two bands comparable is a stretch?
deathtokoalas
early weezer is quite harmonically (or vertically) complex. the beatles were very complex in that way, too - whereas the who were generally not. power pop is not all at a comparable level of simplicity, but you have to have some knowledge of music theory to be able to have the conversation. otherwise, you're not able to even understand what the words mean, in context.
KYLEizaFOX
Your arrogance astounds me. I have knowledge of musical theory as I am a musician. The style of music that weezer plays is absolutely comparable to what the thermals play. To argue that is asinine. The structure of each song, verse, verse, chorus, verse, bridge, chorus is there. The type of guitar chords used are there. The down strokes are there. The upbeat pace is there. The distortion is there. The pop is there. The punk is there. There are enough similarities to hear one band and say, with confidence, "hey this band makes me think of weezer" or vice versa.
deathtokoalas
you might think you have the kind of knowledge necessary to have this discussion, but the language you've used demonstrates that you don't.
i'm only going to correct one error: the chord types used in weezer and thermals are not comparable to each other. thermals are mostly one-five power chords. weezer very rarely used those kinds of power chords in their early records, and almost always harmonized them with leads full of 4ths and 6ths and 7ths when they did.
KYLEizaFOX
You might think you have "won" this debate, but your inability to start it, and your dismissal of everything I have to say shows you simply don't have a leg to stand on.
There is no harmonizing a power chord with one guitar. By doing so it is simply no longer a power chord. 1-5. (8 optional)
You also keep referring to weezer's early work like you actually know it. You mean albums like the blue album? Their very first? With songs like In the Garage, My Name is Jonas, The Sweater Song, Say It Ain't So, and Buddy Holly? Songs so riddled with power chords you would have to be a fool not too notice if you are any form of musician?
No one is saying the bands play exactly the same music and are the same band. To sit there and tell me they are not similar is just stupid, and at this point you are just arguing to argue.
You're confusing your arrogance with intelligence.
This is all you do. You tell me "you don't understand." Every similarity between the two bands, and there are many, that I bring up, you ignore. Then offer me this "way out" that YOU are clearly looking for.
"If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough." -Albert Einstein
deathtokoalas
as i've pointed out repeatedly, weezer tend to write very harmonically complex rock songs while the thermals tend to produce very simple three chord rock songs. this isn't a controversial statement, it merely relies on an understanding of the music created by the two bands. all i've received in response is a lot of inaccuracies. i've corrected a few of them, but this argument remains meaningless to anybody that doesn't know what "harmonically complex" means. and it's not intuitive, so you almost certainly don't if you haven't studied it a little.
