Sunday, December 7, 2014

commenting on an effects pedal video

deathtokoalas
that's a cool sound and all (i created something similar in guitar rig about 2007 and use it in the "first movement" track at my channel), but the problem with something like this is that as soon as you package it it instantly becomes a cliche. with all the versatile tools out there nowadays, it's hard to see why anybody would want to go for this...


keep the boxes for distortion, kids. you can make your own effects, nowadays.

ShadicoTheHedgehog
maybe somebody just wants to buy an effect and use it and not go through the trouble of creating one

deathtokoalas
maybe. but, then i'm going to slam their record when i hear it for using stale cliches. i think guitarists operating in this space have a real civic responsibility at this point to try and do something different, because the form has gotten repetitive and it's going to be lost, otherwise. you could claim it's been commodified by the effects industry, even, who have standardized these sounds that were previously just experiments. getting around that means taking full advantage of what you have in front of you.

the way this process ought to work is that you have the sound in your head and you're using the tools to create it, not that the tools give you a sound. this wasn't previously possible for musicians without an electronics background. but, it is now with the electronics that are available.

you can only listen to a combination of chorus/reverb effects for so many decades before it's time to move on. 

MrSpreadem
i agree with you. For the $200 price point you might as well buy a multi effect for a bit more and get some weird sounds like this and way more. By the same token, I personally find it hard to get enough time to play so id prefer something simple that has "classic" tones.

But ya everyone who is serious about making a living in music, you really do need to innovate and you can't do that with sounds from the 60s/70s

publishing trepanation nation (inri058)

there are a few ideas in my discography that i've explored from multiple angles, but nothing else at all like this track, which has been through multiple complete rethinks involving multiple people over the course of thirteen years. as the revisions are so diverse, i think that a comprehensive collection of interpretations is a proper entry within my discography.

in the end, this emerges as my fourth symphony.

the collection is to be arranged chronologically in two discs, with the first disc consisting of mixes that were meant for inclusion in band projects* and the second consisting of mixes that were created after the track was moved into my own various one-person projects. i've placed the second disc at the front of the sequence to stress the july, 2002 release date.

further discussions of the various incarnations of the tracks appear on the track pages, or are linked out from the track pages. please click through.

written over 2001 and rethought repeatedly over 2002, again in 2007, a third time in 2009 and one last time in late 2014. final mixes were completed over the last week of november and the first week of december, 2014. as always, please use headphones.

*the classical guitar version and quiet isolation mix are available for download only due to space limitations on the physical media

credits:
j - guitars (electric, acoustic, classical), bass, synthesizers, drum programming, orchestral sequencing (10), drum manipulation, vocal manipulation, voice (8), live & digital effects processing, digital wave editing, loops, equalizers, soundscaping, sampling, composition, production, cover art

sean - vocals/lyrics (2,4,6), ring modulator (6,7,8)
greg - drum performance sample source (5,6,7,8)

the rendered electronic orchestra on track 10 includes tuba, saxophone, flute, clarinet, orchestra hit, piano, violin, viola, cello, contrabass and various full string sections.

numbers refer to the physical tracklisting, rather than the bandcamp ordering.

released july 4, 2002

https://jasonparent.bandcamp.com/album/trepanation-nation



1) it was around 2006 that i first decided to clear my discography of what had become irrelevant sample work - not irrelevant in the sense of the messaging being obsolete, but irrelevant in terms of listening value. i feel that listeners should be given the opportunity to choose. i've tried to keep instrumental mixes of conceptual tracks since that point.

however, i wasn't able to find the instrumental rabit is wolf copy that i knew existed so i tried to build the mix from scratch. i wasn't able to recreate large sections, or get the volume correct, so i put it aside until the the last few days of july, 2007 when i tried again. at this time, i was able to find an early instrumental remix from roughly april, 2002. this mix was only about half done. i added some of the remaining parts, but was still working in cool edit at the time and consequently had some difficulty syncing them well. i also added some extra production effects. however, i still wasn't really happy with the result and just put it aside.

i went back to school in the fall of 2008 with the aim of putting the music aside permanently. this didn't happen, and the truth is i never really thought it would. however, i wanted to compile a disc of symphonic shorts (jasonparent.bandcamp.com/album/symphonic-shorts) as a last release. some further modifications were made at this time, but it still didn't really feel right.

it wasn't until april 24, 2009 that i got a mix together that i felt ok about. while it doesn't include every piece of the track, it includes everything i could integrate well. that version has been in the symphony's final resting place (jasonparent.bandcamp.com/album/ftaa) ever since.

unfortunately, some of the sequencing on the 2009 mix is suspect, and i ran it through a transform at some point that made the mix sound tinny at points, while introducing some digital noise. this mix has now been discarded.

in line with my decision to comprehensively complete my discography, i've completely deconstructed and reconstructed the track in cubase by carefully lining up the files using clues provided by the waveform. i've also deconstructed parts of it using the technique of digital phase reversal. this has allowed me to remaster it properly and also to ensure that it's completely in sync. this process included liberal use of digital effects to make it finally sound how i always wanted it to sound.

this is the final and definitive version of the track. the song was completed in this form on july 1, 2002 but the manipulations in the mix also date to (1) july, 2007, (2) august, 2008, (3) april, 2009 and (4) nov/dec, 2014. final mix completed on dec 7, 2014. no new sound was recorded after july 1, 2002.

https://jasonparent.bandcamp.com/track/07-trepanation-nation