Tuesday, August 19, 2014

tom petty just released a #1 record in 2014, and can't even get 100,000 hits on youtube to support it?

i've never disliked the guy, and there's nothing wrong with the boomers holding on to something for their last few years, but it's a bit of a reminder of their continuing demographic dominance and buying power, isn't it? yeesh.

it's funny that it's tom petty, too, because it wasn't that long ago that i used full moon fever as an example of a record that was massively acclaimed and hugely successful when it was released, but firmly represented the past and will certainly never be listed in the list of best records of the year it came out in as a result of that. it didn't break big for a few more years, but 1989 was the year that gen x really displaced the boomers as the centre of american musical culture. it was the year that you started seeing a lot of crossover artists in alternative rock, industrial music, hardcore, etc. the implication was that full moon fever was arguably the last substantial boomer rock disc, before it was washed away in the flood of new music. what i was comparing it to was the arcade fire, which i felt occupied a similar place in relation to the coming gen x / y crossover. then, he goes and releases a number one disc on me. but, my opinion has not changed. it's a reminder, not a re-evaluation.

as for the disc itself? it's tom petty. he's not known for deviating from his successful formula of no-bullshit pop rock. but, i hear a lot of bowie in the vocal melodies - more than usual.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31G8V0U8fgo

deathtokoalas
you have to put it in full context, though. christgau fucking adored sonic youth....


Iznogud95
He adored them from Daydream Nation onwards. Up until then, I don't think he gave them anything higher than B-, but I might be wrong...

deathtokoalas
he gave confusion is sex a c+ (and it's a difficult record that he clearly didn't understand), but everything else got a positive review.

Confusion Is Sex [Neutral, 1983] C+
Bad Moon Rising [Homestead, 1985] B
Evol [SST, 1986] B+
Sister [SST, 1987] A
Daydream Nation [Enigma/Blast First, 1988] A
Goo [DGC, 1990] A-
Dirty [DGC, 1992] A
Experimental Jet Set, Trash and No Star [DGC, 1994] A
Washing Machine [DGC, 1995] A-
A Thousand Leaves [Geffen, 1998] A+
NYC Ghosts and Flowers [Interscope, 2000] A
Murray Street [DGC, 2002] ***
Sonic Nurse [DGC, 2004] A-
Rather Ripped [Interscope, 2006] A
The Eternal [Matador, 2009] A-

jack h
What's your favorite Sonic Youth album?

deathtokoalas
hard question. there's a few really good ones. i'd put sister, daydream nation and murray street together as their trilogy of canonical, essential discs. the syr1 is also essential. but there's several others worth mentioning. they faded a little at the end, and the early 90s grunge phase is a weak point in my opinion, but they have a remarkably strong discography, given it's size.
this band has some potential, but they need to kill their idols, first, to really get there.

deathtokoalas
i've seen a lot of tame impala references with these guys, but there's two reasons it's kind of a dense thing to go on about.

1) there's a wide base of 60s and 90s rock that they're both drawing on. tame impala are very good at what they do, but they didn't invent the style they work in.

2) boogarins are more in a floaty pothead grateful dead style, while tame impala use more aggressive floyd/beatles/genesis style rock structures.


desdafinado
Exactly, boogarins are closer to our time. I'd say they are closer to Pound's sound.

deathtokoalas
i don't know if i'd say that. i think floyd/beatles/genesis is much closer to "modern rock" than the grateful dead.