deathtokoalas
you're telling me there's zero soy in your meat products?

if so, then why not? sounds like a smart way to reduce costs to me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJoMzhStPNk

McDonald's
Hey. Farmers feed livestock grains like corn & soybeans, and over 90% of the U.S. corn and soybean crops are GMO.

deathtokoalas
yeah. and i'm not really opposed to gmo crops in principle. i understand that roundup is a less toxic approach than the other economically viable options, and i don't see any chemical reason why our bodies would react differently to meat that is raised with gmos vs meat that is not. the cow is not going to digest the corn differently, and we're not going to digest the cow differently. neither the cow's stomach chemistry nor our own is sophisticated enough to differentiate between one strand of dna or another. it's all broken down to it's building blocks the same way.

but, that's not really my question. there are a lot of economic, environmental and even health reasons why filling your burgers with 30-50% soy would be a step forwards. why don't you do this? if i were you, i sure would...

it's not like your customer base really cares.

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deathtokoalas
you really think the average mcdonalds consumer honestly cares if there's soy in the burgers?

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deathtokoalas
but, are the people that post all this stuff actually mcdonalds customers? and, i mean, they're the same people that don't vaccinate their kids because they think it's a government plot to make us compliant. they're crazy people.

i'd think the average mcdonald's consumer would be more like "meh. this pink slime tastes pretty good. ", and isn't going to react much differently to news of soy in the burgers.

and, given all the benefits, i think that produces a strong case for switching.

so, i'm considering starting a petition to put soy in mcdonald's burgers. post your support here if you agree with me.

Marty Mac
No, because we live in America, and America loves MEAT. McD's has been marketing 100% beef for a long time and that has helped to make them numero uno on this planet. To do anything different, to satisfy a few vegetarians, would be tantamount to suicide.

deathtokoalas 
again, i don't really think that's true. i think your average mcdonald's customer would eat a moldy sock if it came with special sauce.

Marty Mac
Why do you think that? That may be true of kids because of their Happy Meals and kids just like fun things, but adults? No, I don't eat much at McD's for their hamburgers, but a lot of people do. My wife loves their quarter pounder with cheese and my sister is a McNugget fiend! I know that most people in this country would abandon them in a minute if they weren't using 100% beef in their burgers because we want value for our money and soy is not a good value.

deathtokoalas
the whole argument is that soy is better value than hamburger on virtually any metric.

mcdonalds' success has been largely driven by it's prices and convenience, not the quality or even the nature of it's food. we tend to take the first thing that is available to us, rather than shop around for what we actually want. that is, few of us have any real attachment to this watered down concept of democratic freedom that we've attached to "market choice". we eat what we can, when we can. because we're animals that react on impulse, not gods that behave rationally.

the only way to find out is to try an experiment. but i think the results are obvious...

oh, who are you kidding, they were always this bad...

i'm getting requests for review fairly frequently at this point. i guess my youtube trolling has built me up a certain level of notoriety. basically, the idea is that people seem to think that if i rant all over their videos then it will give them some exposure.

which is exactly why i'm not doing it. if the premise is accurate, i need to ignore them - otherwise, i'm negating my own purpose.

but i got this message in my inbox and it really threw me for a loop.

I'm not sure how to go about this, but I'd like your opinion on some music I'm trying to promote a little. The trouble is.. How do you promote something Prog, yet genre defiant?

Your time & ears means more to me because I know from your repèrtoire that you specialize in eclectic & non-commercial music. I guess what I am trying to say is.. Please give this music a listen if you understand the struggle of creating something that is in no way going to achieve any kind of success! I'm told that is not why music is made though.

I'm going to pass your details on to my brother Bobby who will no doubt befriend your music from the 1st second! I'm only a girl, so my tastes are limited, but I know enough to recognise truly genuine music when I hear it.

Please continue to stick up for music's best interests.

i'm only a girl, so my tastes are limited? i see no indication of irony in the message. i had to respond with incredulity.

Ha ha! Yeh lol A little modesty never hurt anyone! I like Take That! There! I said it!

geez. take that may not be critically acclaimed, but liking bad music is hardly a gender marker. there's millions of men into take that, too. a large percentage of them may be homosexual. but they exist.

the things you observe in the wilderness, huh? astounding....