Why are these guys wearing our bundeswehr uniforms?
noprofitmaximierung
Why do the Ukrainian Nazis wear NATO uniforms? /watch?v=I5N5qnD7trg
Pickleman
Have any of you people ever been to a military surplus store? That is all surplus apparall, German jackets are very common at them, along with all nato member nations.
http://www.keepshooting.com/german-flecktarn-field-shirt.html
deathtokoalas
it's funny, that's what the russians say about the crimean self-defense forces.
there have been some rumours about special ops from poland and lithuania streaming over the western border. they're probably not entirely false.
Jan-Niklas Runge
There's a bit of a difference between thousands of troops in the same uniform out of nowhere and some dude with a German jacket.
deathtokoalas
well, that one dude is arguably evidence of a greater movement of people that has been talked about (where'd all these guns in kiev come from, anyways?). there's even been some rumours of an actual nato unit being stationed in lvov, that is to say a nato invasion of western ukraine. don't misunderstand me: this is sketchy info. i have no meaningful evidence to back it up. but these rumours of nato soldiers in the ukrainian uprising do exist and have existed the whole time, and if you understand the geopolitics underlying the actions of the major powers (if not the actions of the ukrainian people), it becomes too plausible to write off off-hand. it's far from crazy. so, the extent of the truth of these rumours is difficult to ascertain due to shitty western media coverage, but that there is some truth is hard to reasonably reject. whether he realizes it or not ostrovosky seems to have finally provided some evidence for it...
Pickleman
the only thing its evidence of is where they buy their clothes. there is nothing suspicious about this. seriously look at my posts, clothes like this is very accessible to anyone, and again, does not evidence anything other then that they buy their clothers from military surplus stores
deathtokoalas
sounds exactly like a russian propagandist....
Pickleman
are you a troll?
deathtokoalas
i dunno. are you cia?
Pickleman
I am both a member of the Soviet Union and the USA. I am also the son of Idi Amin
instead of trying to blindly invalidate me with baseless claims that contradict even your own statements, how about you look at what i have posted. There is nothing strange about what they are wearing. I know this because military surplus stores always sell these types of apparall, the field jackets and blouses and such are all very popular, especially in eastern europe
Essentially nothing they had was military exclusive apparall, me and you could go buy all that stuff on the internet or at a store and that would not mean we are internationally backed. alot of the stuff they are wearing are out dated, and none of it has actual bullet proof properties, they are essentially casual military apparal for various weather conditions
deathtokoalas
all i'm pointing out is that that's precisely what the russians said when they were confronted with explaining why there were people that looked like russian troops walking through crimea. that's a matter of the historical record. you can look it up, if you'd like.
i mean, it could be that they're both telling the truth. it could also be that they're both lying. it's interesting how similar the responses are, though, isn't it?
Pickleman
Russians was not simply wearing jackets with flags on them, they were actually doong the opposite.
Russian special forces occupied Key isntalations and governement fascilities, while covert operations at night were carried out to sabotage Crimeas Telecomunications and intenernet access, essentially cutting Crimea off entirely from Ukraine.
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2014/02/28/Telecom-services-sabotaged-in-Ukraines-Crimea-region/7611393621345
These were not people who were in Ukraine, every in Crimea knew that when they looked up over the Russian border and saw this
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=287_1393605865
Thats a little bit more incriminating than simply wearing a 15 dollar jacket from the military store, and to act as if they are equivelent is illogical
deathtokoalas
well, i think a bit more than that happened in ukraine over the last few weeks.
how's the coffee at the pentagon?
wait. are you senior enough to be allowed in the pentagon?
Pickleman
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
deathtokoalas
that's actually not an ad hominem. it's more of a red herring. but it's justified, because you're clearly on the payroll.
