it's just that in america, words don't mean what they mean everywhere else. barack obama and bernie sanders would be considered conservatives in most places, while donald trump would be considered to be decidedly liberal. the meaning of things get confused.
it's been a while since i called the lot of you conservatives, but it's still true.
pacifism, for example, is a conservative ideology. leftists believe in armed revolution, and a diversity of tactics around how to get there. i know this is confusing if you went to school here, but it's true - pacifism aligns with the religious and traditionalist types, like the quakers and orthodox jews, whereas the left is all hankering to burn the place down. now, i'll admit that bombing iraq is not the same thing as executing the pope, but there's still a fundamental point of confusion here between who is a radical pushing for change and who is a conservative trying to stop it. if you associate anti-war movements with the left, you're deeply confused.
there's other examples; not right now. i've done it before, and i'll do it again.
to the extent that it's the really existing movements on the ground that are important rather than the abstract labels, what that means is that a person like me that tries to react to the actual meaning of words needs to be empirical - and it took me a few tries, but i've figured that out, now. chances are actually pretty good that your local socialist 101 is actually full of religious conservatives, rather than marxist or anarchist radicals. if you're looking for radicals, you're better of trying the religious groups. & etc. you've just gotta do the research, find the mapping, figure out how things actually are...
i'm done my fruit, so i'm shutting down.
but, it smells like a fucking dumpster fire in here.