actually, i'm sure that i stumbled upon that pumpkins cover at one point previously.

and, i know that when people say they like punk rock in 2019, this is something like what they mean.

but, i never listened to music like this....

when i said i listened to punk rock in 1996, this would have been thought of as some kind of metal. and, i still basically interpret it that way.

to put it another way, my concept of punk is inherently pre-refused, and i didn't follow their reinterpretation of punk at all, i completely rejected it.

this is just way, way too loud and way, way too aggressive for me. and, it always has been; there is really no stage in my life where i would have listened to much of anything like this. like, remotely. i like my punk a lot catchier and a lot fruitier and a lot more cerebral and a lot more political than this.

so, what i'm going to suggest is that you ask somebody that likes metal, even if those words mean something completely different to my gen x mind than they do to your gen y mind. it may be an anachronism, but this used to be a kind of crossover sound, and i never crossed over to it.

https://thearmed.bandcamp.com/album/untitled