on second thought, i am cutting that off; i can't really approach the thing objectively now that i know that it's religiously focused, and i don't expect to actually like any of it, anyways. it's pretty clear that they got pretty boring pretty early in their career and never really reversed it. i'm not going to find that lost record like i did with cursive.

as mentioned repeatedly, my sole interest in the band was it's influence on other things i like, and i think that ran it's course after the first few records, if not strictly the first one.

apologies if anybody really wanted me to go through with this, but it's just not the kind of music i listen to, and i wouldn't have even walked down this path at all if they weren't touring with cursive, and i hadn't done the survey on cursive.

or, to put it another way, the survey has come to a clear conclusion that i'm not into it and am not going to waste my time on it.