Friday, November 10, 2017

deathtokoalas
i don't tend to have a lot of empathy for soldiers. sorry.

they sold their soul to the devil, and they got burned.


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deathtokoalas
it's not hard to figure out that killing people is evil.

so, i don't really buy that defence.

that's basically "just following orders".

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deathtokoalas
that is not what these trained killers do at all - what they do is protect and uphold american corporate interests at the expense of anything and everything else. the only thing they are servants of is capital.

and, there are certain sorts of criminals that should actually probably be sent to combat instead of to jail.

send the rapists to iraq to fight isis....

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deathtokoalas
suggesting that criminals aren't a good fit for the military is a category error, a contradiction in terms, as one becomes a criminal as soon as they join the military.

we should neither have a standing army nor should we have conscription; we should rely on the ability to spontaneously come together in mass movements of popular solidarity, when we need to.

once in a while, the united states military will do something good - like help the soviets defeat the nazis, or not get too much in the way of the russians defeating isis. isis is the kind of thing that we ought to come together to fight. but, that doesn't change anything, or make the army's existence any less egregious.

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deathtokoalas
what i actually said is that certain kinds of criminals should be forced (conscripted) to serve a military term as part of their sentence. "allowed" implies some kind of privilege; the idea is that this is a punishment.

rich stoner
We are trained to handle situations and be efficient in what we do. We don't go around just killing. We detain if we can but like any criminal trying to get away it's either fight or flight and I'm not going to stand there and get shot. Also the reasons so many Innocents died kids included Muslims/foreign fighters love making vehicles into bombs, setting out landmines and other explosives, mortar rounds, shooting wildly into crowds knowing we won't fire back with bystanders around and most importantly strapping bombs to their own kids. I didn't sell my soul to the devil. So when you are sick, dying, alone and scared I will have no empathy for you. Much love

deathtokoalas
your personal anecdotes deeply belie the evidence released by sources like wikileaks, which present modern warfare rather as something not much different than playing a video game, and with not much more concern for lost life than the average gamer would demonstrate.

rich stoner
hahahaha that's too funny

deathtokoalas
well, it's the truth. you've got what amounts to naive kids playing rpgs, in the military nowadays. the work on the ground is done by local forces, and their lives aren't particularly important, either.

rich stoner
I'm 32 and I'm laughing because you act like you've been there. I know you get all your facts from reading internet garbage and watching the news. So you obviously know they didn't have police over there. We trained and setup an entire police force so they could take care of their own city. We gave people food and water, played soccer with kids. Ate meals with families, pulled tower guard. It's not just guns blazing and killing everything. Its boring about half the time, just gathering Intel so we could figure out where the insurgents were hiding at. I think you watch too many movies little girl.

deathtokoalas
i think perhaps i don't watch enough of them, and if i did i might be more inclined to accept the sanitized, hollywood presentation you're presenting. but, i do know better. sorry.

ps - there were police in iraq before you arrested, tortured and/or executed them all.