Tuesday, June 10, 2014

deathtokoalas
but, this isn't much different than kraftwerk. why don't you kids go listen to squarepusher or autechre or something?


maybe i should look at it the other way around.

here's some stuff from the very late 60s and early to late 70s to have fun with. this stuff actually sounds best on vinyl due to the added distortion. if your parents (or maybe grandparents) were cool in the 70s, there might be a fun collection to sort through. if not, it's a fun day at your local used vinyl outlet.

this isn't just oldskool. it's retro, to a long time ago.

1) kraftwerk (after '75) 2) tangerine dream (after '73) 3) jean michel jarre (oxygene especially) 4) mike oldfield (late 70s and very early 80s) 5) pink floyd (early 70s) 6) morton subotnick (late 60s)

lolmayonnaise
Derivative of that style yes, but with enough new stuff and ideas to keep it fresh I think, especially the really straight and driving drum groove.

deathtokoalas
not really. that's right out of the mid 70s.

Eric Schmidt
I just paused my daily pigcart fix to explore your suggestions and must say that I appreciate your opening up more details to the world that pioneered electronic music...  I am adding some of them to my elec, dnb, etc. playlist. That being said, none of those suggestions can replace my pigcart fix. Just sayin'... you did pick one of Deadmau5's best, most well crafted songs to make this comment on.

AidanFirmLegend
I do listen to those things! I just also listen to deadmau5 because he is actually a genius! I also enjoy Daedelus, dBridge, Akkord, Venetian Snares, Aphex Twin, and a bunch of other amazing artists. Just bewcause its mainstream doesn't mean it's bad! Deadmau5 alweays amazes me.

ck675
Hey +deathtokoalas, people that listen to deadmau5 don't JUST listen to deadmau5...

deathtokoalas
no doubt. i'm sure they like skrillex, too.

it's a young demographic, i'm playing elder statesperson. and am maybe a little irked about the hype.

ck675
irked or not, let's try not to generalize 

deathtokoalas
i'm not, really. i mean, i'm not starting with a stereotype and extrapolating it. it's not really a comment about the fan base, it's a comment about the music. and i'm ultimately really just providing some useful information that i'm sure is useful to a large number of people stumbling through here, even if it's not useful to everyone stumbling through here.

iHeatzify
poor koalas..

William Heshr
So much knowledge yet so biased at the same time. Tisk Tisk!

deathtokoalas
i don't think i'm really being biased. i mean, it's objectively true that this is post-dated to 40 years ago, and there's consequently 40 years of innovative experimental electronic music to explore that's been released since it was innovative.

not that i don't like to listen to kraftwerk. i do. but this is the voice of my father's generation, and it's going to be kind of a downer if it's also the voice of the one growing up now.

KrisAkaVenno
i think you should be glad these retro sounds are famous nowadays

deathtokoalas
well, they've been famous as long as i've been alive, actually. that's kind of my point.

DanFlex
Funny i saw another comment from you in a beatles video. I think it was in A day in the life. Looks like we have a really good taste of music

Massivecarcrash
When I saw your comment I was initially intriqued and thought "hey some music from the 70's I haven't heard" but was majorly dissapointed when you just namedropped the most entry level electronic and rock artist from the 70's.

Who the hell hasnt heard floyd, oldfield and kraftwerk? You pretty much have to live under a rock to not hear music from the bands you listed.

I cant listen to kraftwerk anyway, it just sounds to much of a parody of itself and hasnt held up well to this day.

deathtokoalas
well,

1) i was drawing attention to the similarity between this and that, because it's well known.

2) the lesser known stuff mostly doesn't sound like this. i mean, stockhausen never did anything like this.

3) there's a generational divide. i'd hazard a guess most kids into edm have never heard jarre, have not explored floyd or oldfield very deeply (i mean, hearing the theme to tubular bells in the exorcist is not the same thing as knowing qe2, and comfortably numb is not the only song pink floyd wrote) very deeply and probably aren't even familiar with kraftwerk beyond "we are the robots". in a sense, i meant it to be very introductory. subotnick is easy entry into more abstract stuff.

4) the truth is most of the less well known stuff really isn't very good, and these things have something to do with each other. let's be honest: the canterbury stuff was mostly aimless. soft machine and gong and camel are pretty boring, and their german equivalents in conrad schnitzler and early can aren't much better.

i may be underestimating a part of the audience, as "ck" suggested. but i'm not trying to reach people that already know. because they already know.

Tom Goodwin 
Why do you assume its only kids that listen to deadmau5

deathtokoalas
not only.

but certainly mostly.