Wednesday, November 5, 2014

Joe Colasaco
Sounds like a Nirvana tune. Was this out before Nirvana started playing?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rfbn3ieVUYU


iMW3BK
No, and no it does not.

deathtokoalas
sounds a lot like the pumpkins, though. that was very much recognized at the time. chicago, not seattle.

CAKmusic
From what I've heard, Poster Chidren (another Chicago band) was an influence on both.

deathtokoalas
it's an old anecdote from steve albini who was basically full of shit and just trying to sell poster children cds to record executives; there's almost no musical similarity in anything corgan did after some of the 80s demo tapes, and even there it's pretty weak. yes, you can find some demos from about 87 or 88 that have a generic "chicago sound", but it has nothing to do with what the pumpkins sounded like by the time they were playing regular shows. it's like an 80s college rock or jangle pop type sound, not the classic pumpkins roar that hum eventually got around to ripping on.

honestly: it's albini trying to sell a box of cds gathering dust in his attic.

here's the thing: corgan was a metalhead that couldn't make it in the metal scene and ended up doing alt rock by default. the pumpkins are basically van halen meets the cure, which makes no sense relative to the cultural trends of the late 80s. it's a bizarre combination. there's no scene underlying it. it's truly nothing more than the idiosyncratic construction of a social outcast trying to piece shit together in a way that's going to get him a career out of it. and, he got lucky in finding an ace drummer....

weezer were kind of similarly constructed.

hum, though? they saw a market and they lunged at. it was smart. but it didn't work out.

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deathtokoalas
i think you probably want to acknowledge jane's addiction as doing something vaguely similar before them - but it's pretty vague. you can also pull out a hefty sonic youth influence but there's not much actual overlap.

the only band that i've ever heard that really foreshadows what corgan was doing was cardiacs, but i've never heard corgan cite them and i don't know if he was aware of them.